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Common Carp Wide Open?

Postby Ahnkochee » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:35 pm

I was looking through the Hawaii State Freshwater records (http://www.hawaiifishingnews.com/records.cfm) and noticed there is no Common Carp in the record books (Grass Carp a totally different species, and not found in Lake Wilson). I've caught Carp in the lake over 4 pounds, and I've seen them MUCH bigger. I guess the next time I'm on the Lake I'm trying for the record. :lol:
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Postby roadwarriorsvt » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:18 pm

When my granddaughter was 3 yrs. old, (2 years ago), she caught a 4 lb. carp on little 3' kiddie rod & reel. Whats the difference (in appearance) between a grass carp and a common?

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Postby Stan Wright » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:01 pm

I have pictures and a weight on my "little 3 pounder"..... But I'll wait and catch a bigger one before I fill out the paperwork.
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Postby Ahnkochee » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:01 pm

roadwarriorsvt wrote: Whats the difference (in appearance) between a grass carp and a common?


Common Carp (Cyprinus carpio)

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Grass Carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella)

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Postby Ahnkochee » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:05 pm

Stan Wright wrote:I have pictures and a weight on my "little 3 pounder"..... But I'll wait and catch a bigger one before I fill out the paperwork.
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Okay so I have to beat 3 pounds at least. :wink:
Can I just take pictures, measurements, and weigh on my digital scale or do I have to bring it in to an official scale? I hate to stress the fish out or worse yet kill it just fo' make "tantaran". :roll:
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Postby Stan Wright » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:06 am

Is this the same kind fish we're talking about here?
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Postby roadwarriorsvt » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:41 am

Ahnkochee wrote:Can I just take pictures, measurements, and weigh on my digital scale or do I have to bring it in to an official scale?


Ji,
Go to the State Records website. There is a page somewhere there that gives the procedured for submitting for a State record. I remember; the catch has to be witnessed by someone; the fish has to be weighed on a certified scale. I think the scales at Wahiawa Foodland and/or Tamura's are certified. I'd meet with one of those stores managers and get pre-approval rather than just show up to the meat dept. asking them to weigh your fish. It should be photographed next to a tape measure as well.

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Postby roadwarriorsvt » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:47 am

Here's the link with directions for submitting a State record:

http://www.hawaiifishingnews.com/pdf/application.pdf

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Postby Ahnkochee » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:11 am

Hope I don't have to stress the fish out too much just for a record sake. They ask for scale location and serial number which seems to count out my accurate though cheap digital scale.
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Postby Ahnkochee » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:15 am

Stan Wright wrote:Is this the same kind fish we're talking about here?
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Awesome Koi Stan, must have bent your Tenkara rod to it's limits! Looks like the one I caught a few years back.
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Postby Ahnkochee » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:28 am

Here another pair of comparison pictures:

Common Carp (Cyprinus carpio)
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Grass Carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella)
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Easiest way to tell them apart is the dorsal fin the Grass Carp's being proportionately much smaller, also the head on the Grass Carp resembles that of a Mullet with a forward facing mouth unlike the Common Carp (Koi) with it's downward mouth and two barbels.
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